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Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 00:23
von Johan Melle
Ooooh! This is a topic that has interested and fascinated me for a long time, and I have worked hard for many years in order to indentify and learn more about the English dubbing actors whose voices we hear in sooo many Italian films. There's been a bit of interesting information uncovered in recent years thanks to interviews with a few dubbers, and this has resulted in a lot of English dubbing credits being added to the IMDb. But please, PLEASE do not put too much trust in the dubbing credits on the IMDb. Several of them are correct, yes, but some are also wrong. For example, most of the dubbing roles attributed to Geoffrey Copleston are incorrect, and so are some of the credits attributed to Ted Rusoff, Pat Starke, Carolyn De Fonseca etc.

As for whether the identification of Robert Sommer as the third of Bud Spencer's regular dubbers, I don't know if it's correct, but I have a few films where Sommer appears that I need to sit down and listen to. I'll dig them out and upload clips of his scenes to YouTube so we can make comparisons and find out for sure.

Regarding LITTLE RITA NEL WEST, there is indeed an English-dubbed version of it. You can find it on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRFRE3NYrkI
I only skimmed my way through it, but I recognized a couple of the English voices, such as Ted Rusoff (dubbing Gordon Mitchell) and Edward Mannix (dubbing Lucio Dalla)

There's also an English version of IL VERO E IL FALSO/THE TRUE AND THE FALSE. I have it and it features many familiar voices, including Edward Mannix dubbing Martin Balsam! Give me a little time and I'll make some clips and upload them.

Regarding IL SOLDATO DI VENTURA/SOLDIER OF FORTUNE, I've written down in my list of dubbing filmographies that Robert Spafford dubbed Bud's voice in the English version. I was going to re-check in order to confirm it, but I don't have the film. I only saw it on YouTube I while ago and now it's gone. I've no reason to doubt that the identification is correct, though. But just to make sure I'm getting everything right, I sat down this evening and went through a few Bud films from the early 80s, and here I present to you the English dubbing credits for these films:


BANANA JOE (1982)


Bud Spencer - Edward Mannix

Marina Langner - Susan Spafford

Mario Scarpetta - Frank von Kuegelgen

Enzo Garinei - Kenneth Belton

Gunther Philipp - John Gayford

Giorgio Bracardi - Ted Rusoff

Gisela Hahn - Pat Starke

"Luis" and "Moreno's Helper" - Nick Alexander




BOMBER (1982)


Bud Spencer - Robert Sommer?

Jerry Calà - Ted Rusoff

Stefano Mingardo - Gregory Snegoff

Kallie Knoetze - Edward Mannix

Gegia Antonaci - Susan Spafford

Valeria Cavalli - Pat Starke

Mario Mattioli - Nick Alexander




THIEVES AND ROBBERS/CANE E GATTO (1983)


Bud Spencer - Edward Mannix

Tomas Milian - Gregory Snegoff

Margherita Fumero - Pat Starke

Bill Garrigues - Nick Alexander

Darcy Shean - Susan Spafford

Dan Fitzgerald - Tony La Penna

Joan Murphy Adler - Pat Starke




GO FOR IT/NATI CON LA CAMICIA (1983)

Terence Hill - Terence Hill

Bud Spencer - Edward Mannix

Riccardo Pizzuti - Nick Alexander

Susan Teesdale - Pat Starke


More credits to follow as I get the time to through more films.

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 09:50
von CharlieFirpo
Hello Johan, welcome back! It's always a pleasure to read from you :-)

Thanks for all the information! They are very interesting! I just added them to the database.

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 12:45
von Chickadee
Hi Johan, nice to hear from you. :-)

I just made a sample of Bud in Soldier of fortune:
:arrow: https://spencerhilldb.de/temp/hector_engl_bud.mp3

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 16:14
von Schlitzi
@Chickadee
Kannst du auch ein Sample von Bud in Nilpferd machen und von den beiden ersten Plattfuß?
Vielleicht kann ja jemand die Stimmen identifizieren

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 17:37
von Maiky
Hi Johan,

I had posted this here link on page one of the thread: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... o6ZBIYXQg9 It leads to sound samples of Robert Sommer as well. I second Schlitzi's opinion that it's him on Bud. (Provided that those sound samples are really Robert Sommer's, of course ;) )

Robert Spafford as Hector in "Soldier Of Fortune" also seems to fit according that YouTube link? Schlitzi, do you agree?

Does anybody know Cary Guffey's real voice?

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 17:38
von Django Spencer
Schlitzi hat geschrieben: Di 27. Feb 2018, 16:14 @Chickadee
Kannst du auch ein Sample von Bud in Nilpferd machen und von den beiden ersten Plattfuß?
Vielleicht kann ja jemand die Stimmen identifizieren
Charleston, Zwei Missionare, Der Sizilianer, Heute ich... morgen du & Gott mit uns wäre auch echt klasse. ;)

Wenn ich die englischen Fassungen hätte, würde ich sie sehr gerne erstellen. :mrgreen:

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 17:45
von Maiky
Hat jemand eine englische Version von "Tre per sempre"? Ich würde nicht ausschließen, dass Bud da ebenfalls original zu hören ist.

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 17:54
von Chickadee

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 18:01
von Chickadee
Die englische Fassung von Tre per sempre lief 1998 einmalig im australischen TV, danach wurde sie leider nie wieder gesehen.

Re: Englische Stimmen

Verfasst: Di 27. Feb 2018, 18:08
von Schlitzi
Also bei Hector hör ich in der Tat Robert Spafford raus
ob er es allerdings auch in Kroko ist, kann ich nicht sicher sagen. Aber Plattfuß 1 und 2 sind eindeutig zwei verschiedene Stimmen.